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Pa. lawmakers pushing bills to have students' cell phones locked away during school hours
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social media retards
2024-05-09 22:08:14 UTC
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HARRISBURG – As state lawmakers appear close to passing a bill to
effectively take cell phones out of the hands of drivers, talk is
increasing about taking cell phones out of the hands of students during
school.

Sen. Ryan Aument, R-Lancaster, plans to file a bill in the Senate that
would do just that. State Rep. Barb Gleim, R-Cumberland, filed one earlier
this year that is awaiting action in the House Education Committee.

The concept embraced by both is having students put their phones in a
locked container during the school day, and it would be unlocked when
classes are over. Mr. Aument also plans to propose a pilot program in
which some schools would get state money for “lockable phone bags” and
data would be collected to track the program’s effectiveness.

But it’s not the logistics that may trigger an uproar. It’s the mere
notion of school students being without access to their phones.

A recent study published by the nonprofit Common Sense called getting a
cell phone a “rite of passage” for children and adolescents. It found 97%
of study participants used their phones for a median of 43 minutes during
school hours. Social media use took up 32% of that time.

Mr. Aument cited the recent steep decline in the mental health in
children. He pointed out that suicide rates for girls aged 10-14 increased
131% in a recent ten-year period.

“Because we know widespread access to smartphones and social media apps
increases depression, anxiety, feelings of isolation, and even suicidal
thoughts in teens and children, my bill is a commonsense approach to
improve student mental health and academic performance alike,” Mr. Aument
said.

Sherri Smith, executive director of the Pennsylvania Association of School
Administrators, said the proposals would start a necessary conversation.
“Constant connectivity” by students inhibits the building of collaborative
relationships, she said, not to mention the distraction of their attention
from school.

“It is the impetus of a lot of problems that our schools and our teachers
are managing in the classrooms,” Ms. Smith said. Many schools, she added,
already have students put phones aside, often in “cubbies” along a wall.

A spokesperson for the Pennsylvania State Education Association, Chris
Lillienthal, said PSEA has taken no position on the proposal.

Among lawmakers, recognition of the problem is bipartisan. Sen. Nick
Miller, D-Lehigh and a former Allentown School Board member, said there is
a definite need to address the mental health crisis in schools.

“Coming out of the pandemic, there is an increased need,” Mr. Miller said.
“I definitely agree that cell phones are distracting and mental health is
an issue.”

A big hurdle the proposal faces, Mr. Miller said, is the belief that cell
phones are a necessary, full-time connection for parents with their
children. Those parents, he said, are going to have “significant concern”
about the proposal.

Beyond that, Mr. Miller pointed to an Allentown School District pilot
program where students 14 and older can actually use their cell phones –
and specifically, an app called “Counslr” – to access mental health
professionals via text, around the clock.

Rep. Joe Ciresi, D-Montgomery, applauded the introduction of the proposal,
calling cell phones “addictive” and recognizing “kids are on their devices
constantly.” But he said he didn’t think the proposal would get full
support from both parties.

He recalled the recent passage in the House, with amendments, of a bill
from Sen. Rosemary Brown, R-Monroe, that would ban handheld use of cell
phones by drivers. The bill, already passed in an earlier form by both
chambers but amended yet again on Monday by the Senate Rules and Executive
Nominations Committee, will need further votes in both chambers.

Action by Pennsylvania would not set a precedent.

In March, Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb signed into law a measure that
requires every school entity to adopt a policy that “prohibits a student
from using a wireless communication device during instructional time.”

Mileva Repasky, a mother of three children who attend school in
southeastern Pennsylvania, said several years ago she got a call from a
school counselor who said her oldest child appeared to be having a mental
health crisis.

“He was really suffering from cell phone addiction,” said Ms. Repasky. “We
got all the help he needed and took the cell phone away.”

Ms. Repasky became co-founder of the nonprofit Phone-Free Schools
Movement.

She said that during emergencies like school shootings, law enforcement
have made it clear they want children paying attention to instructions –
either from trusted adults who are present or those they have been taught
previously – rather than shooting video or calling their parents.

A Seattle public interest lawyer who advises the Phone-Free group, Laura
Marquez-Garrett, said social media overuse by children has produced
catastrophic results. She and other attorneys at the Social Media Victims
Law Center have filed many lawsuits against social media companies
associated with claims of harm to children.

“Schools are supposed to be a safe place for kids. We all need to take a
step back and look at these companies, these for-profit companies,” Ms.
Marquez-Garrett said. “They don’t have our children’s best interests at
heart.”

An Erie Republican who signed on early to support Ms. Gleim’s proposal,
Rep. Jake Banta, said he believed the state would see better outcomes for
students – personally and academically – if they put away cell phones
during the school day.

“It is really distracting,” he said. “I don’t think anybody can say it
isn’t.”

Mr. Ciresi, the Democrat who heads the Basic Education subcommittee in the
House, said he was interested to see how lawmakers would respond to Mr.
Aument’s proposal. He was certain parents’ communication needs would be
part of the discussion.

“That’s the concern he will hear pushback on,” Mr. Ciresi said.

Ford Turner: ***@post-gazette.com

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2024/05/06/pennsylvania-
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Alan Browne
2024-05-09 22:46:38 UTC
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HARRISBURG – As state lawmakers appear close to passing a bill to
effectively take cell phones out of the hands of drivers, talk is
increasing about taking cell phones out of the hands of students during
school.
In all schools where this has been done, it has (after a couple weeks)
proven to be nothing but positive.

Parents can still call the school in an emergency to get in contact with
their whelp.

Grades go up.

Happiness goes up.

Trolling goes down.

Recent WaPo story:
https://wapo.st/3ykksW1
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Hank Rogers
2024-05-09 23:43:26 UTC
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Post by Alan Browne
HARRISBURG – As state lawmakers appear close to passing a bill to
effectively take cell phones out of the hands of drivers, talk is
increasing about taking cell phones out of the hands of students during
school.
In all schools where this has been done, it has (after a couple weeks)
proven to be nothing but positive.
Parents can still call the school in an emergency to get in contact with
their whelp.
Grades go up.
Happiness goes up.
Trolling goes down.
https://wapo.st/3ykksW1
Naturally. Who can learn anything when their full attention is focused on a
damn telephone?
Vinny
2024-05-09 23:54:53 UTC
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Post by Alan Browne
HARRISBURG – As state lawmakers appear close to passing a bill to
effectively take cell phones out of the hands of drivers, talk is
increasing about taking cell phones out of the hands of students during
school.
In all schools where this has been done, it has (after a couple weeks)
proven to be nothing but positive.
Parents can still call the school in an emergency to get in contact with
their whelp.
Grades go up.
Happiness goes up.
Trolling goes down.
https://wapo.st/3ykksW1
Absolutely. Kids get to focus on being kids again. There is nothing
greater than being a kid growing up without having to deal with
unnecessary social constructs.
Jörg Lorenz
2024-05-11 05:54:25 UTC
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Post by Alan Browne
HARRISBURG – As state lawmakers appear close to passing a bill to
effectively take cell phones out of the hands of drivers, talk is
increasing about taking cell phones out of the hands of students during
school.
In all schools where this has been done, it has (after a couple weeks)
proven to be nothing but positive.
Parents can still call the school in an emergency to get in contact with
their whelp.
France has already made positive experiences by banning mobiles during
school hours. Very recent studies here in Europe confirm the positive
effects on the mental health of adolescents.
Post by Alan Browne
Grades go up.
Happiness goes up.
Trolling goes down.
SIC.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2019/08/30/the-mobile-phone-ban-in-french-schools-one-year-on-would-it-work-elsewhere/
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Scout
2024-05-10 11:37:50 UTC
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But it's not the logistics that may trigger an uproar. It's the mere
notion of school students being without access to their phones.
Well crap, I can see how that would be a problem since students didn't have
access to their phones for most of human history.

Even after phones were invented for a long time, if you need to talk to your
child, you either went to the school to do so, or you called the office to
ask them to pass on a message, or to bring their child to the office to take
the call.

A no phone policy... seems reasonable to me. there is absolutely no reason
they would need their phones during a normal school day.
Alan Browne
2024-05-10 19:52:04 UTC
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Post by Scout
But it's not the logistics that may trigger an uproar. It's the mere
notion of school students being without access to their phones.
Well crap, I can see how that would be a problem since students didn't
have access to their phones for most of human history.
Even after phones were invented for a long time, if you need to talk to
your child, you either went to the school to do so, or you called the
office to ask them to pass on a message, or to bring their child to the
office to take the call.<s>
Violent agreement here.

Even when I was a kid in grades 1 - 6, a call to the school could be
routed onto the intercom to the class where I was. 1970-ish.

The school could reach my mother at home (if she wasn't out) or my
father at work (if he wasn't traveling).
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